here's what it looked like. >> the san francisco mom who is injecting her 8-year-old daughter with botox to get rid of wrinkles. >> you're shaking your head. it does sound unreal. >> you're right about that. it does sound unreal. but that didn't stop abc. >> and they were just telling me about the lines on her face and how, you know, a lot of the moms are giving their kids botox and it's pretty much like the thing. >> well, as you've probably heard, the woman whose real name is sheena upton admits the it was a hoax. she was paid $200 by the london tabloid the sun to perpetrate the scam, and abc now says it won't pay her the $10,000. that's it for this edition of "reliable sources." join us next sunday morning at 11:00 a.m. eastern for another critical look at the media. "state of the union" begins right now. on memorial day weekend we honor those who died for their country with a look at how their country cares for their fellow warriors, lucky enough to come home alive but not always.

1 in 10 of those returning from afghanistan or iraq have lost at least an arm or leg. 1 in 4 coming home with deal with issues like depression, substance abuse or homelessness. and 1 in 4 between the ages of 18 and 24 is employed. having done a job for their country most veterans find a way to cope, but many other need help in the business of living. today, serving those who serve with the vice chief of staff of the army, peter corelli. >> i want to fix it as fast as we can. >> veterans advocates tim tats and paul rykofp. >> most of hem go to the beach. we're going to the cemetery. >> and chairman of the senate veterans committee, patty murray. >> paying for veterans is a cost of war. >> and an iraq veteran -- >> i've been told welcome home a hundred thousand times. i met a vietnam vet who had

never been told that once. i'm candy crowley and this is "state of the union." before we turn to memorial day and veteran, this afternoon, president obama visits joplin, missouri, the town devastated by staids. joining us this morning from joplin, governor jay nixon. i know you're a busy man. thank you for your time. give us an update, the number of confirmed dead, what's the situation with the morgue, and how many do you still have missing? >> we've got that unaccounted for number overnight down to 44 now. and throughout the night once again troopers were making that most difficult visit to families in this region, notifying them of a loss of their family members. we've still got a significant level of work to do to make sure because of the damage done to these bodies and the dna and science that's necessary to match them up, but that unaccounted for number is down to 44.

>> so is it possible that these 44 are in the morgue? or have you ruled that out? >> there may be some as we complete dna tests. plus, we are still getting some unaccounted for reports but we certainly moved that down. when i took that system over about four days ago when that number was at 1,500, we moved it to 232, then down to 156. by using law enforcement resources throughout the state we got that number down to 44. at the same time, we're getting notifications to dozens of more families each hour. two nights ago, 17 between 11:00 and night and 4:00 in the morning. families were notified last night all night. our troopers were working. the bottom line is we're using science to get the answers, but more importantly than that, we're using trained missouri troopers to sit with families sometimes for hours to go through the -- what's often a very difficult discussion. >> do you know what the death toll is at this moment, including those notices that went out last night, obviously?

>> the numbers continue to rise. this isn't about a scoreboard, this is about a series of individual tragedies. those numbers have far exceeded what anyone had ever hoped for, far exceed any single tornado in the history of our country. today as we pause at 2:00 to bring everybody together, all the ministers, all the clergy for a memorial service, we are focused on remembering and inspiring others to continue to come together the way they have here. we have law enforcement officials from throughout the region. we have folks that have been here for a week working straight through the clock. we're going to rebuild joplin. we're going to focus on rebuilding our souls today and begin the process of rebuilding joplin when that memorial service is over. >> governor, the president is coming this afternoon. he'll be at one of the memorials you are having. i'm certain he will ask you what you need. what's your top priority? hoo we want to continue to feel the people of this country continue to reach to us and give those contributions to our

various charities. that's been tremendously helpful. we're also going to need the will to rebuild here. we're going to need the assistance of everybody to get this site cleaned off, rebuilt, and rebirthed. we've been working with all of the folks. the bottom line is the most important thing today is the refocus on our resolve, the calling on a higher power to make sure we all have the strength to go through what's going to be many months of rebuilding here in joplin, missouri. >> governor, there have been a number of articles out that are surprised, even though this obviously was the worst possible tornado, strongest possible 200-mile-per-hour winds, and that you do expect there will be fatalities. but a number of people were surprised at the number considering we do have doppler. there were warnings put out. everything -- you're talking about people that understand what to do in a tornado. what do you think accounts for a really high number of fatalities here?

>> i mean, story after story of just total destruction. i mean, one of the stories of a young couple, woman got in the bathtub low in her house. her husband laid down on top of her to make sure she was protected. he was impaled by debris as it came through. he passed. she didn't. stories like that all across the area of tremendous destruction. i mean, folks are beyond homeless here. their homes don't exist. you can't tell neighborhood to neighborhood whether a house was a brick house or a wooden house. the level of destruction, there's no bark on the trees. the power here just twisted everything off. the foundation of this hospital back here was moved. this giant hospital, top two floors knocked off, four inches it was moved on its own foundation. the power and destruction here was unimaginable. >> governor nixon, thank you so much for your time. certainly, our hearts and prayers with those in joplin and

in missouri. thank you so much. and now to the country's veterans and my series of interviews with people in and out of government trying to make a difference in the lives of those who made it home. joining me now here in washington, general peter corelli, vice chief of the staff of the u.s. army. general, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me here today. >> you spent so much time in particular looking at soldiers who are suffering in vast numbers, post traumatic stress disorder, ptsd, head injuries of all sorts. over the past two years, soldiers and veterans, we are told by one statistic, have killed themselves in greater numbers than were killed in combat. why? >> well, i think we've been fighting for a decade, and i don't think we as a nation, we as an army, and we as the armed forces, know the total effect of a decade of war. but i think that's what we're seeing. you know, these hidden injuries

of war -- post traumatic stress and traumatic brain injury and other behavioral health issues -- have been with us forever, they've been called different names at different times in our history but they've been with us forever. but we've been fighting now for a decade in a different kind of fight where everybody that finds themselves in theater finds themselves in danger. >> would you agree that suicide among those in the military and veterans combined is epidemic? >> i hate to use words like "epidemic." but i will say, in the united states army last year, we had 162 suicides and about a force of 725,000 folks. 156 suicides. each one of those is a tragedy. but, you know, for every one of those individuals who commits suicide, there's a whole bunch of folks who will never, ever consider committing suicide that are hurting. that's why i think it is absolutely essential that we study and learn everything we can about the brain. now, no one is in fact criticizing us for the way we're taking care of soldiers who have lost arms and legs.

i can't find a single article. no one ever e-mails me about that. but the fact is, we just don't know as much as we need to know about the brain. and the effects that are causing the brain for these long deployments and for these repetitive deployments and for the experiences that soldiers have down in theater. >> and so when you look at something like ptsd, i've read in several of the articles that you said you just don't have enough psychiatrists and you don't have enough folks who are suffering who want to come and talk because of the stigma to it. so first, let me ask you, why are there not enough psychiatrists in the army? why are there not enough psychiatrists available to the army? >> that's a national problem, and you're going to have to ask the nation. i have a problem because the rest of the nation has a problem. and we have a real deficit in behavioral health specialists in this country. we need more.

i need more in the army. and the other thing we've got to work is the stigma. we as a nation -- not just the united states army, defense department -- have got to take on this issue of stigma, the stigma of folks not wanting to go get the help that they need. but i've got to tell you, candy, even after they reach out and get that help, of the 156 soldiers that committed suicide in the united states army last year, almost 50% of them had seen a behavioral health specialist. so it is not the panacea, because we just don't know enough about how the brain works. these soldiers come home and they look basically the same or exactly the same as they looked when they went away for 12 months, when they went down range. they're welcomed home by their families. again, they look the same, and then they start changing. they show signs of post traumatic stress. they may show signs of traumatic brain injury that was undiagnosed.

>> and if you look at the statement -- so you have what? more than half of these folks who killed themselves did reach out. have you looked at what went wrong here? is it because -- and again, i read this somewhere -- that because you lack the personnel in terms of psychiatrists or health, behavioral health folks who could help, you're too reliable on drugs or pharmaceuticals? >> i really think that's the problem. the perception of soldiers out there is, in fact, that, at least in the past, we were relying too heavily on drugs. now we've taken that on board and are working alternative medicine very, very hard. we believe we're close to having a biomarker that's going to allow us to go up with a small machine, the same kind of thing you would use if you were checking somebody's blood sugar, and you're going to be able to

take a quick blood sample and tell if somebody has had a concussion. we're working with different instruments to measure pounds per square inch, acceleration that occurs during blasts, to see if we can collect more information on individuals so they can be treated as we unlock the secrets of the brain. now, i got to tell you, i worry watching the coverage of these tornado areas, the number of folks that are going to come out of those areas that have post traumatic stress. i'm sure they're going to have cases of traumatic brain injury. but post traumatic stress in those areas, seeing some of the film that i've seen that people have shot on cnn, anything we can do to learn more about this is going to help not only the united states military but it is going to help society as a whole. >> general, i want you to stick with me, because when we come back, i want to talk a little bit about the american people, if there's anything you think that could be helpful from the american people that could help with so many of these young people and middle-aged people coming home from war that need

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we are back with general peter chooe, vice chief of staff of the united states army. when you look at some of the statistics that deal with veterans these days, they have a higher rate of suicide, particularly in the young people group. homelessness, about 20%. higher rate of dependency on alcohol or drugs and a high rate of joblessness, again, particularly in that younger group. what does that say about the u.s. commitment to its veterans? >> well, we need to reach out. we need to reach out and first identify those veterans. what i worry about is that they blend back into the community and don't get the -- really three things they are looking for. they're looking for education, they're looking for access to health care, and they're looking

for fulfilling and secure employment. community solutions to this, so much are so better than anything we can do at the national level. >> i want to -- admiral mike mullen, who, as you know, the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, delivered the commencement address at west point last weekend. i want to play you a bit of what he had to say. >> i fear they do not know us. i fear they do not comprehend the full weight of the burden we carry or the price we pay when we return from battle. this is important, because a people uninformed about what they are asking the military to endure is a people inevitably unable to fully grasp the scope of the responsibilities our constitution levees upon them >> this is a frequent theme of admiral mullens, there is a growing disconnect between the bulk of the civilian population and the military.

i'm trying to figure out if there is any connection between that and between the fact that at the moment our veterans seem so underserved. >> well, i think admiral mullen's comments are, as we say, spot son. that's a concern of all of ours. that's why he, as well as the white house, is leading this dialogue to connect veterans with the local communities. you know, there's always a tendency to try to do that from washington, d.c., but that's really not how it works best. the best solutions to doing this, as admiral mullen has us going out speaking -- i was recently out in seattle, washington, spoke to a town hall at the university of washington where we talked about veterans organizations and the need for the community to reach out. if you ask just one question -- are you a veteran? then spend some time talking to that veteran to see how you can help him or her reintegrate and get back in to their community.

>> how come it is still so messed up, though? as you point out, we've been at war for ten years, that we would have veterans, more veterans than we've had to begin with, isn't a surprise, and yet we just hear sort of complaint after complaint. and -- but more than the complaints, just these awful statistics about people, you think, couldn't we have helped this person? >> well, i feel exactly like you do. i want to fix it as fast as we can. i, too, wish that we could snap our fingers and all the problems would go away. but it's a huge organization with many, many veterans. and it's just -- it takes time but i understand that that's not comforting to anyone. >> does it take more money? do you have the resources you need? if we say -- i've never seen a politician say we've got to make sure we take care of these veterans when they come home, they need homes and jobs and

training and this and that. do we have the money for that? >> what we need is a focused effort on the research to get behind the causes and the remedies for post traumatic stress and traumatic brain injury. i've got a population of warriors called my army wounded warriors. they had a single disqualifying injury of 30% or greater. when i became vice 2 1/2 years ago, there were about 3,400, and about 30% had post traumatic stress or traumatic brain injury. today that number is over 8,500. and 65% have posttraumatic stress or brain injury. 11% of my soldiers have lost an arm or leg or more in that population. so the real huge numbers, what we're seeing, are these hidden injuries. and we've just got to really push the research so we understand them more and are more successful in treatment regimens. >> do you have the money for that?

>> well, i want congress to provide as much as they can to these research efforts. i think they're absolutely critical. i got to tell you, i worry, given the fiscal situation that some of the money that's being used to do this critical research is going to dry up. >> and that was my last question, that is that we're in a budget-cutting time. you have heard secretary gates say that he thinks he can find another $400 billion out of the pentagon budget. do you think any of that money ought to come out of any va -- any veterans -- sorry -- any veterans' pay? >> my personal opinion is we need to find a way to increase the money that's going into particularly these research efforts and veterans programs. >> general chiarelli, thank you so much for stopping by. appreciate your time on memorial day. >> thank you. up next, the challenges facing our nation's veterans from two organizations that say the government can and should be doing more.

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we also need to connect with the american people. we are facing an unprecedented level of disconnection. when you think about memorial day, most americans are going to the beach. we're going to arlington cemetery. it reveals the divide that exists between our military and the veterans community and the rest of the american public. they need to be engaged not just on memorial day, july 4th, not just veterans day, but a constant and consistent commitment to this generation of warriors coming home. they've got education and serious health care challenges and this town in washington hasn't done enough. we hope the momentum behind osama bin laden that everybody felt and that tremendous pride can carry over into the coming months and coming years because our warriors need it. >> do you think it is possible that employers -- i find it astonishing that the unemployment rate among young veterans is far higher than the general population. you think it's a little possible they're afraid to hire a vet? >> i think there are a couple of problems. when you look at the number of unemployed veterans, there's larger number of unemployed veterans in that 35 and 50 age

category. young percentagewise but the biggest percentage, over 500,000 of those unemployed veterans -- are those older ones. >> it is a horrible economy. >> they come back and say i served my country in the first persian gulf, i am now jobless, what can i do to get myself back in there? as we sit here and look at this, as we look at today's problems we have to realize today's problems also deal with previous war periods, and we can't forget those who previously served and service them while we are trying to take care of the new veterans because those are the ones that we need to overall impact. >> why are young vets not signing up for the va, do you think? >> i think the va has a serious outreach problem. only 47% of iraq and afghanistan veterans are enrolled in the va. the average age of our member is 28 years old. i think the va has to realign their entire business model, find these veterans where they are and use social media, facebook and twitter more aggressively than they are right now and advertise their products. most people aren't aware of the gi benefits, they don't know about va home loan opportunities. va has great products and

services to offer, but they have a really hard time finding them. that's why they need to partner more aggressively with groups like ours and other organizations at the local level to push out their resources and connect with those vets. >> how do you think the va is doing at this point in terms of getting benefits in some reasonable time to those who have signed up? >> horribly. they're atrocious. you've got clerks -- >> we could have said that ten years ago. right? >> they're doing atrocious. and we've said it. and we've stood before congressional committees and said we've got to fix it. when they ask for more people we said absolutely let's get more people. when they asked for more money, we said get them more money. they've got all that. we sat there and said give them everything they need. they're working with the veterans and making it happen. now years later on the back side they are saying we need to break the back of this backlog. the time has come for them to make that happen, and we need to basically start all over, stop with this one way of doing it

the way we did it in the '60s, and revamp the whole process to fix it. >> if you apply right now for disability benefits and you are a young vet coming back from iraq-afghanistan, the average wait time is six months. that's unacceptable. >> so get any kind of veterans services? >> to get disabilities payments. >> they are living on what? >> if you appeal it resets to two years. so the system is broken. the most important thing that we need to focus on is customer service and customers satisfaction of those veterans of all generations coming home and customers are saying this isn't working. so we need the president to be much more aggressive, we need congress to come together and solve this problem once and for all. every va secretary comes in and says i'm going to break the backlog. every va secretary leaves and says the next guy's got to break the backlog. it hasn't happened yet. >> i think people don't get it. it is the same story we heard 15 years ago, the same story we heard coming out of vietnam. general shinseki is, i think we can all agree, an incredible guy, a soldier's soldier. and if he can't do it, isn't it time just to sort of light a fuse and say, start from

scratch? >> you're dealing with some tremendous leaders. general chiarelli, general shinseki. they have made it work and we started from nothing and we're going somewhere but when you sit and look at a transitioning service member who their goal is to get benefits in 295 days after separation and their reality was 404 days, that's over a year where that person is sitting there waiting for anything and that's why you have the 14,000 calls to the hotline for suicides. that's why you have these people who are just absolutely pulling their hair out saying what do i do? i've become a burden. their families are, like, this isn't the person who came home. that's what we have to address. those are the issues that we have to do. they're doing a lot of work at the top, but it's not working at the lower level yet. >> it has improved but we've got a long way to go and we've never had so many people -- >> you don't have a lot of time. they're coming home in droves. >> they're coming home in droves, and the window is closing. the the political community and public's attention is going to shift in the coming years. the va can't do it alone.

if only 47% of my generation is enrolled, we need help. we need local communities to get involved and the president to communicate a message that the va is not our only resource. they will be a critical part of the solution, but we need everybody else involved, too. they can't just sit back on their couch and say, hey, va's got it covered. >> what's your number one wish, if i'm sitting at home watching this. what do you want them to do? >> we want every single american to think about memorial day and get involved. get involved every single day about veterans. even if you don't have someone in your family, understand it is your moral obligation, our country's sacred obligation. doesn't matter what party you're from or who you vote for, they need your help right now. you supported them over there. you have to support them when they're coming home. >> or one step further. everyone sees a veteran. you go through the airport, see someone serving. take one moment, one kindness out of your heart and say to them, shake their hand and say "thank you for serving," because it is going to matter to those of us who aren't wearing the uniform because we're going to see it and it is going to matter to those wearing that uniform. >> both of you complete this

sentence for me. for veterans, i would most like to see president obama -- >> deliver on our promise to care and never turn your back on them. >> ask the american public to help. ask the american public to do something to get involved. most urgently what we need is employment. we need jobs. he can drive that message home. start it on memorial day, carry it through the entire year and stand with us in our goal to lower the veteran unemployment rate by veterans day. 11/11/11 is veterans day. we want to lower the veterans unemployment rate by that day and he can help. >> bully pulpit. >> yes, ma'am. yes, ma'am. >> thank you so much. appreciate you coming. >> thank you. one of the biggest challenges face veterans when they return from war -- finding a job, as we just heard. senate veterans affairs committee chairwoman patty murray on what congress can do to help, next. to your eyes to your eyes with transitions lenses. transitions adapt to changing light

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when it comes to taking care of veterans, the public's voice is clear -- 85% of americans polled by cnn in january said preventing cuts in veterans benefits is more important than reducing the deficit. over 3 million veterans are collecting disability from the department of veterans affairs, and nearly 900,000 vets looking for a job can't find one. >> there are thousands -- thousands of veterans who are trained for beyond that of their

civilian pierce who can't seem to find employment out of the military. initially the leadership and management skills that veterans have obtained in combat are being overlooked by the civilian workforce that does not understand their experience. >> congresswoman patty murray is pushing two pieces of legislation to help veterans make the job transition. the hiring heroes act requires job training for all service members returning home. the veteran employment transition act gives tax credits to employers who hire veterans and eases the requirements needed to receive the credits. senator murray has a personal connection to these service members -- her father was a world war ii veteran and purple heart recipient. senator murray, thank you so much for being here. >> great to be here. >> one thing i think is pretty astonishing is that we're seeing a 20% joblessness rate of young vets between the ages of 20 and

24. why is that? >> number of reasons. one of the things is that they go on the ground in iraq or afghanistan, work as a medic, fix electronic equipment, drive a truck, do incredible logistics work, and then think that has nothing do with the rest of my life. we have to work to make sure that they see what they did in the service is transferable to a civilian job, help them with any training or certification or whatever they need to do that so they don't come home and start literally over with no job. >> why is it -- i don't totally understand that. i did read in some of the research that, for instance, a medic can't come home and get a job as a paramedic. why not? >> it's crazy. we have men and women who serve on the ground in iraq and afghanistan 24/7 in the most severe medical conditions serving as medics, come home, and they can't even drive an ambulance or service an emt.

they have to start all over at the very beginning. >> they get no course credit, no experience credit. >> no credit. >> so in order to get credentials to do that. >> that's right. certification or licenses. that's why i've introduced legislation to change that process, to get the department of labor to look back and how we can get that certification done for them with their military credentials in a number of fields. medics is obviously one. driving a truck. getting your truck's license is a challenge even though you've been on the ground in iraq driving trucks for four years. >> so it's a matter of somehow syncing up that experience with the requirements. so the military could either help them along with those tests or you could have it received as a credit when they get into the -- >> right. so what you do -- your experience there in iraq -- and whatever you do -- becomes part of your certification or licensing process. >> 20% of them are homeless. we've got this 27% unemployment rate among young veterans.

what is wrong here? i don't understand why this isn't getting done. >> you know, i've worked with veterans for a long time, and i love the fact that in these conflicts america's saying we're behind our men and women. it's more than just words. it's making sure we're there for them. i have too many veterans who tell me they don't write on their resume that they're a veteran because they believe that that employer will put their resume to the bottom of the stack. >> why would that be? what's the problem here? >> there are two problems. there's certification requirements we just talked about. there's the lack of understanding on a veteran's part of what skills they have done that they can get a job in. there is a lack of training and focus from the services themselves on that person as they get out about what they're going to do next. their mission is over, you fought for us, good-bye. we have to change that and we need to help our men and women in the services see what they've done on the ground is translatable into an actual job

when they get home. and conversely, we need employers to recognize that the skills that they have work for them. these kids are hard working. they show up on time. they are team players. they know how to work. employers aren't thinking that when they've got somebody with a resume that says veteran on it. >> you probably could not find i think a better friend to veterans than general shinseki who now heads the va, and yet we still hear the same horror stories about how the va is overwhelmed, they don't have enough people even though they've hired a bunch of people, thousands of people, to help process these benefits. so we are stuck with what seems like the same old va that is not servicing these people that we've pledged to take care of. why is that? >> well, you know, bureaucracy and va always go right together. and the va itself has to look at itself as an organization that makes sure they're out helping

our veterans. and they need to be honest with america and congress about what the costs are of doing that. for years they said we don't need additional costs because they were worried about sounding like they needed more money. paying for our veterans is a cost of war. war is expensive. this country has to step up and pay for that. and in order to know what we need to do, our va, the administration, any administration has to be honest with us about the costs. >> costs money to give out those benefits. >> so we as a country have to remember, when all we scream about is deficit reduction, we're going to leave some people behind, and i'm very worried it is our veterans. >> will you fight that? >> i absolutely will fight that. we have an obligation when we send someone to war to be there for them. and we're talking about complex cases. we're talking about men and women with serious injuries. they're not going to recover when this war is over and we bring our troops home. they have a lifetime of benefits and complexities and health problems we need to pay for. i have to tell you, candy, what

worries me the most, as someone who lived through the vietnam era, is that at that time we had soldiers coming home, and we all remember what happened. our country's got that on its conscience. if we don't make sure that we help those men and women who are coming home today get a job, help with their physical and mental injuries, get through the benefits claim process 20 years from now our country will have on its conscience a high number of veterans who we've lost because of suicide, who are homeless on the streets, and who have been lost, and i don't want to see that happen. >> senator patty murray, thank you for coming. >> thank you. up next -- a wounded warrior turns his attention to the housing needs of veterans. [ heather ] businesses need a reliable financial partner. one who can stay in sync with their moves. my job at ge capital is to get bobcat all the financial and business support they need. we provide financing for every bobcat dealer in north america. together, we've rolled out over 100,000 machines

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our next guest is dedicated to helping handicapped veterans while experiencing those challenges firsthand. staff sergeant dale beatty was on his first tour of duty in iraq in 2004 when his vehicle ran over an anti-tank mine. he lost both legs below the knee. beatty found overwhelming support from his community but saw plenty of others slipping through the cracks, especially vietnam veterans. so beatty and another wounded veteran started purple heart homes, handicap accessible, and he works with banks to help younger vets buy their own homes. >> most of our calls are really not veterans looking for something to be done for them but veterans that want to say, hey, i want to contribute my time or effort or my business specialty to what you guys are doing. >> staff sergeant dale beatty joins me next. hmmm, you can't do that.

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joining me now, retired staff sergeant dale beatty, co-founder of purple heart homes. you were in iraq, lost both your legs in an explosion, ied explosion. tell me how you got from that day in iraq to purple heart homes. >> well, a lot of time in the military health care system, and then a year at walter reed here in d.c.

and so very testing journey. i was welcomed home with open arms by my community, and it really influenced the way my recovery progressed. i didn't have time to feel down for myself, and especially being in hospital, seeing people that were hurt worse than me, i just knew i had to drive on for my wife and my two little kids and my family. >> one of the reasons that we found this story so compelling is that you didn't confine it to iraq and afghanistan. you're helping a lot of vietnam vets. >> yes. iraq and afghanistan veterans only represent about 20% or so of service-connected disabled veterans. so you have entire generations above and older than current guys who are coming home who are in need just as bad as we are. so we really began targeting that group of individuals that's in the gray area, that their needs aren't being met by the va

because they don't qualify for certain extra benefits, or their needs are not being met by other nonprofit groups that are targeting iraq and afghanistan vets. >> you've met obviously a lot of vietnam vets who have had injuries similar to yours. >> right. >> they're also aging, and that sort of exacerbates existing injuries. can you sort of tell me what is the difference between the way you have been welcomed home and they were in terms of the treatment and the help that they got versus you? >> first of all is the family organization, like the fisher house where i was able to stay for a year and able to have my wife and kids in the same room every night, every day. that's completely different. in vietnam, they kept all the veterans in a war room in the hospital, and the families were

allowed vis, but they weren't allowed by their side 24/7. >> but your message today and every day is that there are veterans from the vietnam war that need help from their communities. >> right. >> and like many of our guests, you say that government can't do everything. >> well, you know, i think a lot of people have that misconception that the government will take care of a disabled veteran, but with the vietnam guys, for example, the way they were treated, a lot of them had rejected the veterans affairs -- or veterans administration for their health care. they don't want anything to do with it, and they've taken care of themselves. a lot of them have done well. some of them are struggling, and some of them are at the very bottom of that spectrum. so it's really something that communities really need to do, take ownership of what's there in their neighborhood, some of the projects we've done, the people next door didn't even know the individual was a veteran.

so that really -- when they came over and said, wow, i never knew you were in vietnam, welcome home -- i've been told welcome home 100,000 times. i met a vietnam vet about a year ago who had never been told welcome home once. so they're hiding their service. they're hiding all that and keeping it inside. it keeps them living in the past. and they're so glad to see us being treated the way we're being treated that they just -- they grin and bear it. and they're happy for us. >> and one last question because we talked about this right before coming on. and that is we were talking about the va and things that are and are not going right. and you mentioned that you're having trouble getting a new pair of legs. tell me what that's about. >> i really don't know. i think it's just they're overwhelmed with what was currently in the system and the numbers that keep adding up. it's just a mass interest into the va, people wanting health care and some of the other individuals i mentioned before who had never sought out the va for health care. now they have to because they don't have a job anymore or

they're broke or trying to help themselves out through these times. i think they're just overwhelmed. and on individual levels, they really do a lot of good things. that's a tough job to work at the va and for the va. >> here's hoping is gets a little bit better. >> i hope so. >> i hope you have a good memorial day. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks. you, too, candy. up next, our "sound of sunday" and then "fareed zakaria: gps" at the top of the hour. eyes eyes with transitions lenses. transitions adapt to changing light so you see your whole day comfortably and conveniently while protecting your eyes from the sun. ask your eyecare professional which transitions lenses are right for you. ask your eyecare professional for your transitions certificate of authenticity for your chance to win instant monthly prizes or our $20,000 grand prize!

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time for today's "sound of sunday." as the governor of missouri told

us earlier, joplin continues to recover from a devastating tornado, an emotional and hugely costly job. on the sunday rounds, house majority leader eric cantor said there will be federal help for city, but something must give. >> families don't have unlimited money, and really, neither does the federal government. but there's no question there's a federal role here to play. congress will find the money. it will be offset. and until the president comes forward with his recommendation about how much, you know, i know there are plenty of charitable efforts going on now. >> also on the budget front, despite dire warnings of what not raising the u.s. debt ceiling will do to the struggling economy, newly minted republican presidential candidate tim pawlenty says he's against it. the former minnesota governor thinks at the very least there should be some cost-cutting acat attached to an increase. >> i don't think we should raise the debt ceiling, and if the congress moves in that direction, the president better get something really good for it. it better be permanent and

structural, like a balanced budget amendment and permanent caps and limits on spending that are specific, not just aspirational. >> sarah palin's flirtation with a white house bid is reaching a new level. she rode in washington's memorial day rolling thunder parade and began an east coast bus tour. her former running mate, senator john mccain, sized up palin's chances of defeating president obama. >> of course she can, she can. now, whether she will or not, whether she'll even run or not, i don't know. but, you know, a lot of things happen in campaigns, chris. you remember i was written off a couple times and we were able to come back. so there's going to be a roller coaster ride for all of them before they finally arrive at our nominee. but she certainly is a major factor, and i believe that she can be very competitive. >> and that's today's "sound of sunday." thank you so much for watching "state of the union." if you are interested in helping the nation's veterans or if you are a veteran who needs help, please go to our